Logo for Ragnarok

The Guild Ragnarok is looking for a logo to use in their website and possible on printed materials, they announced this in a thread at their forum and I have tried to make a few suggestions myself, each participant can enter 3 suggestions until the due date 15th October.

The first thing I was thinking was to make some kind of Coat of Arms that would symbolize that the guild is an Scandinavian guild, therefore I tried to make something with the 3 countries flags and coat of arms together with elements that I was thinking symbolized the Ragnarok Guild.

The sketch of the first idea:

Ragnarok Coat of Arms Sketch

And the first finished version of the Ragnarok Coat of Arms:

Ragnarok Coat of Arms (wrong year - should be 2003)

I got suggestions for this one, some people was thinking it was too fairytale stylish and that it should be more fantasy and use more elements from Ragnarok as a mythological worlds end and start. A more powerful and heavy font was suggested and also to fix some of the elements that was already there, like pulling the crown down to the name of the guild, fixing the flags so that forms correctly around were they are, also a downsized version could work with some elements removed and some pulled closer together.

I have waited to work more with that idea and gone a little different direction for the next idea; I looked at what the different members of Ragnarok wrote in the thread about what they were thinking a logo should have in it. And I scribbled down the things, ended up with the Fenris Wolf or the Midgardsorm in some symbiotic way to be wrapped around the letters RR (which means Ragnarok)

Here is the Sketch of the letters with Fenris and Midgardsorm (I used references from existing drawings on the net so they do look a little like them if you search for pictures)